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Small window for congress to make election law more secure. that's especially important given the moves we've seen some states make in the opposite direction to give control of the mechanics of the election of who deserve as winner to more partisan actors in republican-dominated states. if that is something that congress doesn't take on and then we have a kind of crisis in 2022 or more likely 2024, this is going to look like the window of an incredibly important, missed opportunity. >> really important. emily and melissa, thanks to both of you. let me tell everyone what we have coming up. this...

The degree to which that notion was being talked about, bandied about, posed by people serving in congress, that seems to me to be quite striking and even striking. >> professor? >> i want to follow up on something that emily said. i think it seems like the earlier texts show a coup in progress, a lot of support for this discredited john eastman theory of discrediting and getting over on the voters by decertifying the election. then it seems like they have this change of heart. almost like that show "family matters" when jalil white steps in as erckal and says, did i do that? they're actually ...

Level of government. we have a midterm election coming up in november of 2022 where control of the house of representatives will certainly be at stake. and everyone understands that, and one of the reasons why i think the republicans are fighting so hard for the house is because they don't want any more of this to come out. if the control of the house flips, this commission goes away. >> and this commission is already digging up a lot. emily, we talk about the role of the lies and the propaganda because that's central to getting the people there and that's part of this. it's not that all the c...

Talked about, we just have to get this out of congress and before the supreme court. the obvious implication was that this court, newly concentrated with three trump appointees, will do it to us. >> emily, the professor beat you to the erckal reference? >> what am i going to do about that? melissa wins that battle. just to continue with this line of thinking, the idea that there is such a partisan concept of who controls the government, that it doesn't matter who actually won, that these initial discredited reports of somehow these elections aren't val it, even the number of states that were i...

Professor millicent murray and "new york times" emily babylon. emily, your thoughts on all of the above? >> i think it's really important, as you keep emphasizing, this is new evidence, new pieces of information that certainly would have played a role to impeach president trump if those facts had been known at the time. the most important part to me is the part that implicates meadows, trump's close adviser at the time, and obviously members of congress. you see this in-the-moment urgent concerned response to january 6th, but also previously this set of assumptions that it's possible to overtu...