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Of african americans thought it was time to have a conversation on race. i used to be white before 9/11 but realize i'm no longer white as a muslim american. so if this hoodie start as conversation -- >> this is exactly the danger with the museum. it's going to become poll lit sized from get-go. >> the department of justice says -- >> it's union and civil rights -- >> the department of justice says there is no civil rights case here. the fbi said that. the entire american system rules that, let's say, you would still put it in there? >> we can't deny the fact this hoodie represents something t...

You have, you can never buy your way out of that. >> no, no. you can't. i mean, as i said, i constantly am filled with anxiety. in the neighborhood we live in chicago, fairly safe, predom nabtly white. i wonder if someone may look at him jogging in the cold with a hoodie on and wonder what is this young black male doing in the safe white neighborhood. i don't mean to sound racist. i'm sure it sounds racist -- >> but you wonder. >> this is the things -- these are some of the things that goes through my mind. will someone look at my young black child jogging because he is on the cross country te...

Martin and sybrina fulton and they wonuldn't have to have a black person in the room explaining what they're going through right now. that's an unimaginable pain to have your son taken from you in circumstances beyond his control because someone looked at him and decided that he was a threat and decided to follow him, to stalk him, and to murder him. and whether, you know, the courts say he didn't murder him, fine, but he killed that child. that's the pain that those parents are living with now. that jury couldn't relate to. >> that's the racial empathy gap that people have written about. we s...

The state should treat everyone the same. this is a conservative belief, and conservatives will make their way in that direction. >> republicans home the u.s. supreme court does not rule in favor of same-sex marriage next week when they begin to take up the topic, right, van? many made it very clear they want the defense of marriage act to remain part of the law of the land. federal law of the land. wrr that . >> that's true. but there is a deeper issue for both parties. there is a basic empathy gap. whether you are talking about the constitution or not. and in an increasingly diverse society,...

What? 72% of the vote went to the president. that's an even larger margin. both of these block, latino and asian-americans care about immigration reform, not amnesty, which is what people on fox news-- the word you throw around in here. we want -- >> okay. so for the sake of argument, call it what you want -- immigration reform. again, if mitt romney -- i want your honest opinion, if mitt romney had come out and said, i am for immigration reform, i will pursue that in my first term, do you think mitt romney would have won 50% of the latino vote? >> he certainly would have won a lot bigger than...