Mother, yes, it's true, she indeed false security numbers, she was living here under false security numbers. that's a crime. that's not to be justified. the president clearly has an enforcement duty and responsibility. but if you're going to talk about an executive order which indicates that people who represent a threat to this country should be removed, i fail to see your rationale, congressman. >> rationale is -- >> congressman -- >> -- what they did with i.c.e., how do you justify it? >> because it's the law of the land. it's the law of the land. i'm sure you read the case, i'm sure if you...