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>> that is a little bit in a vacuum. some people are convinced we could go to a different tax system. a flat income tax or sales tax they might be willing to give up other deductions. but the problem is if you are afraid to put it on the table because you don't think washington will follow through and get the rest of it done. i am for wholesale tax reform. clear the decks and let's start over. >> eric: this is why it's class warfare. if you highlight taker, makers, have, have-nots, 99%, the 1%, that's the game they're playing. >> greg: the tea parties are the achievers and the occupiers are th...

Iee, working at media matters. i wrote that whole thing just so i could end it on media matters. >> dana: i could tell. you worked backwards. >> greg: the backward principle. >> dana: talent. >> greg: okay, should students be paid to go to school? poor kids from poor homes? eric? >> eric: i like except about your piece except for the part saying they are paid by donors and federal workforce investment act. >> kimberly: there is a catch. >> greg: but they said, according to the article i read, all of the stuff, paying for kids to go to school were from donations. >> eric: if it's all private mo...

>> bob: they don't think that way. a lot of kids are kids of single mothers, from poor areas who don't see america as the american dream. the fact some cases may see it exactly the opposite. so, you got to look at this thing. another country, yes, but other countries they don't have the rampant race of single parent, poor people where the lion's share of the kids come from. that is a distinction. >> eric: if you offer it that way, bob, eventually, you get used to it. you get used to subtleties. >> kimberly: you expect it. >> eric: the donors,' theory, model runs out, then what? then they turn ...

They smell like butterflies. >> kimberly: no, they don't. that is one of those things. by the way, what do you think? christie had the right thing on the flags at half mass? >> eric: i am not going there. i live in new jersey. if you want to fly the flag at half mass, i get it. people are outraged. military families outraged over the hoopla and outraged that christie would lower the flag for native, newark, new jersey. >> dana: you can -- [ overtalk ] >> kimberly: we're sliding out of this block. what kind of country do you think we live in? are americans generous or stingy? we will tell you w...

Clinton has done in haiti, pretty impressive. he and bush 43 working together after the earthquake. things that president bush has done in africa and continues to. do it's a little bit of a c'mon, you're not the only former president. >> kimberly: no. >> bob: let's give carter his due here. i know it's funny, but the group his group eradicated saved 2 million lives. what george bush did in africa saved millions of lives. >> kimberly: talking about as president. >> bob: when he was president he had me. >> greg: socialist, fair share systems that carter admires are the countries that don't give ...