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By an old adversary and be let happen. offering obscure ones and adequately pushing russia for achieving something even the soviet union at the height of its power could not manage. meddling in the s election and for those that the americans just in a democracy. to think that whatever they may have done, back channels, clearly it did not work. was it enough? >> clearly was not enough. we knew plenty about russia nefarious espionage activity. when it suited us we took action. remember we arrested russian illegals in 2010. and exchange them for four guys out of siberian labor camps. the administ...

We know that twitter has been manipulated by computer-driven bots. it makes some sense that the russians may have used some of these fake twitter accounts to push more stories. >> we know what happened largely, matt, in the last election. we know there are a lot of concerns about what it could mean for elections going forward. is this something that can be or should be legislated away? >> i think we have to hear more from the companies about what they're both able to do and what they're willing to do. it's right that -- twitter hasn't told us as much yet as facebook has about how they're going...

Long they've been dormant. so at that point we were only going to be able to show historical espionage activity, not ongoing espionage. >> i had had just transferred from our computer forensics branch. fbi asked us for help and we had areas of expertise that were useful. >> nsa's role, specifically andreas who was the lead counterintelligence agent assigned to the investigation was in part to conduct a forensic review of kendall meyers' computer activity at the state department. >> forensics were just pieces of computer information that helped tell a story. whether or not you look at a web pag...

So he was not removing classified documents from his office and walking out of the building. we were all convinced it's him. but no counterintelligence, no espionage indicators. >> so kendall's had no activity, no contact. >> it appeared that they were no longer operational. they weren't continuing to provide the cubans with intelligence. that presented us with a problem of not being able to catch them in the act if they're not still active. it doesn't matter, what matters is that at one time or another they chose to betray their country and we're going to identify them and prosecute them if w...

Surveillance. >> some of the things we do in these types of cases are monitor email traffic, install microphones into vehicles and residents. >> my role was collaborating with the fbi and gathering information, as much as possible about kendall meyers. i was the one that had had easiest access to the state department. conduct business of the state department, i would do that. >> you have to follow him. you have to monitor him. you have to see where he goes. you to see who he talks to on the phone, what he pulls up on his computer. skrou to look at everything and anything that are suggestive of...