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Do you accept any of the criticisms of how this was done, or do you agree with president biden's essential argument that this was going to be ugly and messy no matter how we did it? >> withdrawals are always difficult. there is some substance to that argument. but i think we have to look back beyond the past couple weeks, as we've been fixated, as we should be, in and around the kabul airport. look, the siv program, to bring afghans who have worked alongside of us to safety and give them a new fresh start in america has been on the books for years and has underperformed under both democratic a...

Of course, of president obama and before that president bush who's presidency also served. and the essential argument that mr. bolton is taking if you want to denuclearize north korea in his mind, you have to do sanctions. what's interesting is that none of the three administrations that mr. bolton has critiqued on this have been willing to go do that including the two he served in because they didn't want to risk war. yes, there are things you could go do to north korea. and i think mr. bolton has accurately laid out the way the north koreans have read president trump which is they can play t...

After a couple good debate performances everybody forgot about it. that's the challenge for joe biden. he can afford one bad debate performance, but two, i think would really destabilize this race. that's what i'm going to be watching. >> in fact, you know, his team -- everyone is projecting he wants to punch back. he said i'm not going to be as polite this time around. he's been going after cory booker, his record as mayor of newark saying he was investigated by the justice department. held responsible for stop and frisk operations against african-american men. so that's really coming right b...

Say anyone can tell you what happened to the von trapp family, but when you geinto court and put on a trial, you have to put on the sound of music. i'm interested to seeing if the house takes it to the next step and puts on an impeachment proceeding, that will televise everything, make it more compelling. that will make it theater. i think more people will pay attention than justin, who was the only guy who read the book, it seems. >> let's for a moment, if we can, jack, tune out the presidential response to amash. republican party, ronna mcdaniel, et cetera, and get at his essential argument....

He said i stack my progressive credentials up against anybody, but the larger point is we need to be able to work together. i get criticized for saying nice things about mike pence, we remember, but we need to get things done and the other part of the speech that hasn't gotten as much attention and he was very stark in terms of the stakes of this election. he talked about the threat that donald trump poses to our own democracy. he said if you had told me two years ago that our democracy in this country would be in jeopardy i would have laughed at you. so the argument for joe biden as his campa...