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He's twenty, 25 , 30 points ahead of anybody else. and the reason is he is seen by everybody on the right one as the one person with the courag and d strength to stand between them and a truly crazy left wing establishment. and weishmen know it's true bece we've now watched him take this beating for seven straight years and he's still standing.ng it's a. n astonishing new .g.o.p. >> yeah. types what about the gop elite types,u the establishment types? you saw some of them trotted out today. you hear about john cornyn or thune or todd young. bill barr said it would be a disaster. trump would ge...

Because -- wasn't being taught insanity. >> i don't do wineries so -- >> you can find but mona, let's bring this out a little bit. and they talked about coming into the idea of using this as a tool to elevate up the santa -ism, what are your thoughts? there is this something that the donors think that they are being sneaky picky with, or what? >> don't you have a little ptsd here? it's like 2016, where the establishment people are saying, well, we can't have trump, so we're going to get behind jeb bush or scott walker or somebody. and i'm afraid that because there are so many establishment typ...

Break that down, more. lucy, what are your thoughts on this? >> yeah, i think that ultimately the 2024 presidential republicans were just going to see that this is a few sad sack for republican establishment types. by some of the missions already 5% of people who are republican primary voters don't think that joe biden won the election. many of them are warm to the events of january six. so, the idea that you are going to run a contrast candidate through pants or through some other we. you'll even see people like larry hogan who is supposedly a never trump stalwart in the republican primary fi...

Of killing republicans. and mccarthy celebrated his win by taking a selfie with her on the house floor. look, look. moderates. 139 house republicans who voted to overturn the 2020 election, including five out of seven members of the then-house gop leadership team. a sad reality is if there are no moderates or establishment republicans left in this gop caucus. the people you might call moderates, like adam kinzinger, jamie herrera beutler, john -- those who voted to impeach trump, they are all gone. the people you might call establishment types in the gop, like mitt romney, who voted to -- the ...

The republican party is not a monolith. it has establishment types, it has populous, and some moderates. there are three scenarios, basically, that are possible now, one, the freedom caucus basically take mccarthy's concessions as a win, and enough of them support him for speaker. number two, mccarthy could withdraw and allow another candidate for speaker to be proposed, one who presumably could get 218 votes. you heard a number of people's names mentioned, steve scalese is one. others could emerge as well. a third scenario. moderate and establishment republicans could strike a deal with democ...