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There is a sense that there is just one too many ethics problems. look, donald trump's brand was draining the swamp. he doesn't like it when somebody is acting like they are repopulating the swamp instead of draining it. and that is the problem here. >> bret: however, on the flip side, pruitt arguably, as far as cabinet secretaries have done, has ticked off the trump agenda, and reversed the obama agenda when it comes to the epa more than any other cabinet secretary. >> when you look at the personnel trump has dismissed, usually it's because there are some type of policy disagreement. that pla...

Go was tom price at health and human services, then it was rex tillerson at the state department. now we can add this way? this way. three, two, one! ah, there it is. secretary of veterans affairs, david shulkin. like lots of trump cabinet secretaries, including tom price and ben carson and ryan zinke and, arrannd, and, david shulki he, too, had embarrassing ethics problems, including lots of taxpayer spending for what looked like long european vacation for him and his wife. but like i said, there are lots of trump cabinet secretaries who have that particular embarrassing problem, even worse t...

Co-panelist he had questionable ethics problems of his own based on more than a rumor i can relate to what he is dealing with. it's an unfounded charge. >> melissa: thank you both. >> jon: a crack in a cold hollywood case. who los angeles investigators are naming as a person of interest in the 1981 drowning of actress natalie wood. and frightening moments at virginia tech all over again as a student is arrested for illegal possession of an assault rifle. what police say he was planning. >> you just don't walk out of the house and assume that something bad is going to happen. thank god they fou...

Bannon too much credit. they want to build him up because it is so disturbing to think of the man behind the agenda, behind the white he nationalism, to be the president himself. gabe sherman was on this network last night talking about having sources within the white house who were describing the plan that kelly and other high level officials had to bodily tackle donald trump if he went for the nuclear football. i think the pan sic there. now it is up to the republicans to gary tcare about the country stand up and do something about it. >> thank you. bill, i want to ask to you stick around so...

This internal policy which prohibited, i just explained to people watching, prohibited anonymous donations from lobbyists to white house staffers who have the legal defense funds. it's a movement that could help people in the administration caught up in the russia probe to pay for attorneys. you, sir, ordered a review of this law before the election. what's your response to the news today? >> first of all, i have no problem with people setting up legal defense funds. it's very hard to be a public official. if they need some help, that's one thing. you have to do it carefully and you have to fo...