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Understanding that they are two american. with two sets of rules. there is an america that they imagine themselves to be the rulers. the america where they obtain, where they hold power, and then there are the rest of us who should simply shut up and obey. if we don't, we should be punished. we need to understand that difference. they operate within the understanding of to america there. fighting for one, and they want the rest of us to simply obey. >> eddie, i want to take that part and broaden it. that devolution that you are talking about, which is exemplified in the senate, the devolution ...

Alito -- association, because through this membership, he has apparently received benefits from a broader cohort of wealthy and powerful friends. when we talk about creating ethics rules for justices, should there be any that prevent them from joining these types of organizations? what do you think those parameters should look like? >> the first thing is that you need rules at all. right now, there are none. we all understand that when people aren't subject to rules, they -- everyone wants to give themselves the benefit of the doubt. everybody thinks that they are well intentioned. when you ha...

Protected donald trump from impeachment when democrats tried to move him from office, i suspect that they are likely to protect people like clarence thomas and samuel alito from this ethics code. the other problem is that, let's say it passes. now what? what do you do when thomas and alito say, well, i am going to keep flying on billionaires jets? the only way to remove them from office is impeachment. that takes 67 votes in the senate. my biggest concern about this is that even if it passes, what is the enforcement mechanism against one of america's nine de facto philosopher camps? >> i want ...

The Senate Judiciary Committee announced Monday that it will markup a Supreme Court ethics bill next week as justices ended their term without adopting any changes to how they should report gifts. Chairman Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said that the panel will consider legislation by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), who chairs the judiciary subcommittee on courts. The…

Which a lot of progressive groups have been calling for. as you've seen these ethics violations, and all of the rulings recently, have you re-thought that it all? >> i've said everything should be on the table, but i was recently watching the fdr mini series and i saw that even fdr had trouble with that. it's not an easy thing to do. often people see that it is polarizing, or partisan. i think that term limits isn't easy your first step that would reform the, court calling for term limits, and the judicial code of conduct of ethics. you know, even republicans in congress, if we go out and have...