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Trump administration, where president trump couldn't be held liable for ethics violations. it is not likely going to be an issue for the bidens in terms of the ethics laws, but, of course, public perception might be an issue here as laid out in the piece. >> pamela brown, thank you so much, appreciate it. the announcement about the birth rate in china that is catching the whole world's attention. stay with us. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve financial freedom. we're providing greater access to investing, with low-cost opoptions to help maximize savings. from the plains to the coa...

Even those four members of congress that include ji jordan for possible ethics violations you wonder question could ther have been -- they have been a little bi more explicit and perhap naming some of those other collaborators if you will that were part and parcel of th effort that would open in thei discussions. especially when you sa revealed through mark meadows. the former presidents chief of staff text messages that suggested people way ginni thomas the wife of the supreme cour justice would exactly what - could there been more that - had there been greater cooperation with them. so i loo...

About these ethics violations. in theory, they sought like a big deal, but in just a few weeks the house ethics committee is going to have a gop chair, right? andy biggs and kevin mccarthy, both want to be speaker of the house so do you think anything is gonna come of this. i can't imagine jim jordan is actually afraid of an ethics violation, probably likes it. >> he's not afraid at all, i will fund-raise off of it. steph, you are just talking about. it if i was still -- say i was a crazy conspiracy reliever right now, i had my consultants next to, me and here's what they're gonna say. tonight...

Something that a lot of voters want. but probably feel they're never gonna get. but some accountability is important, the congressman said earlier that there's ethics violations, those in congress they would like to see -- i know a lot of americans a lot of democrats want a step further. they may not get it but i do think what happens thus far with the january six committee. and having in times an uninterrupted narrative for several months to be able to lay out the case. it did a lot of the job already. which was convinced the americans, to tell the story of how so many republicans, trump incl...

Closer, and closer to the truth of the matter so that the american public can see what happened in the midst of this. >> carol, picking up on what matthew just said, the committee chairman bennie thompson told reporters that the panel could also issue other categories of refers on mondays such as ethics referrals to the house ethics committee, barred discipline referrals, and campaign finance referrals. immediately, these aren't as sexy and flashes criminal referrals but they can have a significant impact on all those involved as well, am i right? >> no question that those kinds of allegations...