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from them? >> they want everything anderson. they want the transcripts of all the thousands of interviews, witness interviews that the committee says that they have. done the justice department first asked for these transcripts in april. and we learn today in a court filing that they asked again this week. and the reason for that is that there are a group of the proud boys, a members of this extreme group that has lead the charge into the capital. and under the rules, under the law, the justice department is required to turn over everything in this possession of the government. in the government's possession that could be relevant to those people's defense. that includes transcripts that the committee has. >> so why wouldn't the committee just hand them over? >> so far we have only heard very weird things from the committee. including that this is their work product. truman thompson was asked by reporters. here's what he had to say. >> we are not going to stop. what we are doing, to share the

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i think he had actual plans to actually do what he was going to do. >> anderson, it was his sister who reached out to who convince them that he should call 9-1-1 so again, a very close call there based on what police have said. if convicted, anderson, roske faces a maximum sentence of life in federal prison. back to you. >> we appreciate. a danger in yellowstone is not over, the threat of more flooding and in the surrounding area, coming up next. you can't always avoid triggers like stress. qulipta™ can help prevent migraine attacks. you can't prevent what's going on outside that's why qulipta™ helps what's going on inside. qulipta™ is a pill. gets right to work to prevent migraine attacks and keeps them away over time. qulipta™ blocks cgrp, a protein believed to be a cause of migraine attacks. qulipta™ is a preventive treatment for episodic migraine. most common side effects are nausea, constipation, and tiredness. learn how abbvie can help you save on qulipta™.

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anderson, two times, and on the third time to evacuate, his detail leader said we have to get out of this floor. we have to get to the basement, it's not safe. but of course, as you know, from today's testimony, when they got to the basement, pence was still suspicious essentially of being spirited away from the capital. he had gained a new determination, that he was going to stay, finish the work, certify the election, the victory of his opponent, joe biden. he was going to finish the work, even though, as you've shown here tonight, the president had put a target on his vice presidents back. >> and to see him, i mean again, looking into the phone, being aware of the tweet that the president had sent out in this incredibly dark moment for him and his family, that's an extraordinary moment. what other reasons based on

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>> with frustration. >> david, is that defensible for the president not to check on his safety, as we also heard, for him to have sent that tweet i think it was 2:24 pm, knowing the attack is underway, knowing his vice president is in danger, a tweet which is read by the mob and spurs on the mob? >> anderson, clearly it is reprehensible. clearly, you know, the president, the presidents phone call to the vice president earlier, it was recounted there, in a previous clip, he called him some harsh names and raised his voice, were counted by several people who heard the conversation. mike pence is an honorable man, served his country not only not to check on him but

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today, so did eastman himself. as for what he did after january 6th, today the select committee says they have an email that he said to rudy giuliani to be included on a list of -- . the committee argues that he knew his actions were potentially criminal. joining us, is the voice of the legal political landscape. and senior political adviser george conway. and senior political contributor. david axelrod, what was the -- ? >> well look, clinically. the revelation that in the president's presence, the person who was advising him on the strategy acknowledge that it was illegal. and that the president pressed heavy with it. and was quite a revelation. the fact that, the degree to which he knowingly unleashed this violence on his own vice president was a revolution. but anderson, this was some one

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supreme court and even in his initial suggestion that the vote would be seven to, he seemed to feel like there were two votes that would go into his direction despite the fact that it was so obviously illegal. so, you know, i think we need to understand that he was a very central part to this, and he was acting in concert with donald trump. >> these witnesses were hardly liberal trump antagonist which i think is important to point out, they were top pence aides, and they said the former president and his allies are still quote a clear and present danger to american democracy. do you think this has any impact on politics in this country? >> you know, i would love to say yes, anderson, i think that we are so hardened and polarized, when only 30% of

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information that we have gotten so far with the department of justice. we have to do our work. >> and so, the committee seems to be saying, wait until we are done our work in september. and we will turn it all over. >> but i mean there are xerox machines. i don't understand. why do they have to stop their work in order to give them copies of transcripts? >> it doesn't make any sense, anderson. especially when you think about, it there's all this criticism from the committee members against the justice department saying that mayor garland needs to step it up. there needs to be some more work done by the justice department to do these prosecutions. so now you have prosecutors saying, this is actually pr work. this is going to hurt our ability to bring accountability to those people who invade the capital january 6th. >> appreciated. thanks. what's advice does vice president pence get into a car while this was unfolding? we'll get to a reporter who has

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later at creighton university in omaha, she learned a lot of green move to washington to work as an aide for than congressman -- a conservative from the basket. she reportedly met clarence thomas in 1986, at a conference on affirmative action. they married in 1987. >> it was on my desk, don't make fun of your wife's choices, you are one of them. >> i clarence thomas -- >> in 1991, in the washington post, of friend described the couple as intellectual soulmates. the new york times reported clarence thomas described her as a gift from god. randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, county florida. we >> are learning more about what authorities say was an assassination -- and about the kind of weapons and equipment that the suspect was carrying. what's new details have we learned? >> anderson, prosecutors have laid out these new details which show that they had a long list of items with him which

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mob that was threatening pence 's life and he said, you are very special, we love you. but he didn't pick up the phone to call his vice president who had served him loyally for four years to see if he was all right. that is an appalling just position. >> mike pence's family reading that tweet, and there's our photographs of them in what looks like a loading dock, reading that tweet that the president sent, and you have been fleeing for your life, and they see this tweet from the president, you know, twisting the knife. >> yeah. >> george, go ahead. >> i was just going to say, anderson, i don't think that a cheerful call from the president would have made any difference. to axles point, people being dug in, i think one of the most important thing is that in the legislative branch, is the

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stir the pot, it is reprehensible. it's indefensible. >> he emailed rudy giuliani about receiving a pardon after january six, he pleaded the fifth some hundred times. do you believe he could face some criminal liability here? >> absolutely, anderson. there is no question about that. the very fact that he acknowledged his own legal blueprint was illegal, tells you the state of mind. he definitely faces crimwould ee

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