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Is up and who is down but it is very important and interesting to look at who has his ear and who he is trusting most right now. >> i think allison that it was inevitable. what is missing from that list? what is missing from that list is white house experience. what is missing from that list is david. who has served a variety in the white house itself. they have political stripes of varying degree. he is the example of that but where is the executive experience in administering the different branches of government and the different regulatory agencies and that caught up with them. number one. ...

It. the manner in which he is doing it is creating a lot of unease in the state department and people are not seeing a careful evaluation of who is doing what. is this person good for u.s. diplomacy? they are seeing a total bloodbath. >> in every one of the stories i read, people note rex tillerson has no foreign policy experience. he does have spoforeign policy experience. he knows the big players. he worked his entire career in a sprawling organization that he managed. he has executive experience and foreign policy experience. >> i agree. he has experience dealing with world leaders. he does...

Will be studied, but the trajectory for him has been here is a guy that was never a politician. look, if you plan on running for president you'll probably never go on the howard stern show and fool around and have fun and tell jokes and have a good time. which was something that he did. not on a regular basis but a number of times. but the fact that yeah, during the campaign he made some mistakes, but if you look at the trajectory and the learning curve and the fact that he was such a quick study. it was pretty amazing. the big difference that i see based on what i have observed my entire life...

Leeferreds, governor, and came to the department of education with deep executive experience in public education, you have held no such position. >> she's worked to improve education. just because somebody doesn't work inside a system, but instead works on the outside, full-time, to try to improve education for children by putting kids first, giving parents more choices for their children's education doesn't mean they are unqualified in any way, shape, or form. you know, alisyn, across the country parents are told every single day in too many schools that they don't know what's best for their ...

Putting rick perry at energy kind of, you know, fits i think a couple of different things. one is that. you have people who are essentially dedicated to moving these agencies very quickly to the right. also another point that he values donald trump values experience over expertise. you look across this cabinet at the generals and the former governors and the ceos like rex tillerson as opposed to, you know, as jackie noted, the nuclear physicist that president obama put in energy. democrats put, i think, kind of orient more towards policy expertise. republicans general prefer executive experien...