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To testify to some of those issues? >> i believe that grand jury subpoenas carry more weight and courts tend to give more deference to the criminal grand jury subpoena. there will be an executive privilege argument here. we saw cipollone in front of the committee in his videotaped deposition a couple of times he said i'm not going to answer that, i'm going to cite executive privilege. but it appears from our reporting that doj is not going to accept that, they're not going to accept his assertions of privilege, and they're going to go into courts. now, the upside for doj is if they win, and i ...

Under oath and tell their side of the story, they're perfectly, you know, fine to do so. i'm sure the committee would love to hear from them. we'll see if that happens. and elie, this week the committee issued a subpoena to former white house counsel pat cipollone one of the figures who is really sounding the alarm on january 6th. let's watch. >> i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime im...

That sip lonie will a in many of these meetings there were people outside the white house that were there angd it and he doesn't really have an executive privilege argument. i which he would let the american people know what's happened. >>. >> let's bring in a member of the january 6th select committee right now, democratic congresswoman stephanie murphy of florida. thank you very much for being with us. so tomorrow what should we expect? >> well, tomorrow's hearing will follow look. >> to get the department of justice to say that there was

>> well, it may constitute a waiver of the privilege if you do that, but, ana, i think it's important that, you know, there's a saying, witnesses can sometimes lie. documents don't. and this is why the committee went all the way to the supreme court in an extremely rapid fashion, just over three months, to get those 700-plus trump administration documents because even if these witnesses are refusing to talk, those documents will do the talking for them. the whole executive privilege argument is bologna here, as the supreme court found, there's no real basis for them not to do this, but unfortu...

Documents, thousands of pages without asserting privilege. and those documents are a legitimate basis for him to show up and testify. so based -- you don't even need to get into the executive privilege argument. now, the d.c. federal courts have also said that president trump's executive privilege claims are unavailing. so that's a weak point, too. just because his case isn't as much of a slam dunk as bannon's doesn't mean he has a good one. he's at very substantial criminal risk. i think he'll be prosecuted. >> carl, does it make sense to you that the committee released these text messages fr...