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Checking with the white house, i understand that we have a unitary executive, the white house supervises the entire executive, they don't see the need of having to do that or the optics of having done that are not good. paul: the political wisdom of that, it creates the impression that maybe there's a political -- >> i'm sort of outside my lane at this point. i'm not supposed to counsel people on political wisdom. that doesn't seem to be a smart thing to do. paul: what about this issue of executive privilege? the president raised in saying that, you know, that he has private phone calls with h...

Why do -- i mean we all know schiff wants to impeach the president. he's wanted to do that probably since january 20, 2017. >> well, right, but look, here's a fundamental problem, though work the entire democratic claim that this is an abuse of power. a lot of americans look at this and say okay, could we just have one set of rules for the road instead of a double-standard? why was it not an abuse of power when the hilary clinton campaign was directing russian dirt to the fbi for use on a counterintelligence investigation against the trump campaign? nobody was complaining about that back then....

>> still i think a lot of this is untorrid. i think asking governments to investigate someone through rudy is not a good idea. but i'm not sure it is impeachable. >> quickly, bill, rudy's brief an assignment from the president was to find out ukraine's involvement with paul manafort and then secondly joe biden and hunter biden and the ukrainian gas company. typically that would not be a job taken up by state department officials or the secretary of state. that is a political question. could be a legitimate political question. but normally you would not ask diplomats to be pursuing that kind of...

Republicans and i think independents are slightly in favor of nonimpeaching but very slight, sort of evenly divided. paul: pelosi is moving very fast. they want to get this done, probably have a vote on the floor -- that's whether to impeach or not. there's still a question of why haven't they had a vote on the floor authorizing an inquiry, impeachment inquiry like happened with clinton and nixon? >> well, i think she wants the political issue. she wants the bad press for president trump to keep dribbling out these stories and leaks keep occurring, and she wants to delay it for that reason, to...

Any republican votes for it. >> yeah, to some extent, there's a need to include them, and obviously that's done ad hoc. paul: do you see anything so far in as you have looked at this big picture that there's any violation of law that you detect? by the president of the united states? >> you mean the president's conversation with the ukrainian president? paul: that's correct, in the whistle-blower's complaint. >> the whistle-blower's complaint pretty much relies on that conversation. it goes into various other things that the whistle-blower has heard, but they all relate -- they all center on t...