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>> we see the action of this president be an assault on the constitution, once we had his even admission to that, we had no choice but to go forward. it's hard. we want to weigh the equity. we want to be fair as we go forward. paul: as house speaker pelosi moves to expi dishsly on impeachment -- expeditiously on impeachment. democrats accusing the white house of a cover up as secretary of state pompeo acknowledged he was on the july 25 phone call between president trump and ukrainian president zelensky. and republicans crying foul after a new york times report that intelligence committee chair...

Leader, it's a completely separate question. >> of course. and nobody's seeking -- i mean interestingly that people assume that he's seeking dirt. paul: they may not be. they are trying to find out what happened. >> what happened. paul: yeah. >> and how is it that a counterintelligence investigation was begun that wharfed into a criminal investigation and we ought to know how that happens and why. paul: separate from that, though, let's take the president's comments this week publicly inviting china to investigate joe biden and hunter biden and what they did in china. what do you make of that?...

The case for impeachment this week? >> well, i think the short answer to that would be no. but let's put it in some caveats here. impeachment is what the house democrats want to make it to be. they can define impeachment. but nonetheless, most of the american people regard impeachment of a president as a grave serious activity. and the question is why had the democrats decided to elevate the issue of donald trump's interactions with the president of ukraine to an impeachable offense, as nancy pelosi says a violation of his oath of office? i think they are going to have difficulty reaching that...

And saying communist chinchina china, you investigate joe biden. >> i agree it is unpresidential. the american people need to make up their mind. this president since the inauguration day has had the entire established washington against him and this is the way donald trump fights back whether he's president or citizen of the united states and i think voters will have to figure out whether that's appropriate. paul: still ahead as polls show growing support for impeachment, a look at the potential political fallout on capitol hill and the campaign trail. >> they are the do nothing democrats. th...

To whether, for example, if the president called henry kissinger who is no longer in any administration and wanted to get advice, it might cover that conversation. paul: what about a conversation, though, with xi? does that mean any time a whistle-blower decides he wants to make a complaint and say i think i heard, i heard that there was some -- something bad happened in a call. therefore i'm going to write a complaint and it goes up to capitol hill and capitol hill says we have to see what the text was. that's a bad precedent. >> yeah, this is not a precedent for that. first of all, the whist...