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Government and the Justice Department, thats the perfect way to raise an issue with the ukrainian president , correct . It is appropriate for the Justice Department and the prosecutor again to cooperate and exchange information, yes. To the extent the president had concerns and the Attorney General is having u. S. Attorney durham looking into that. Is that entirely appropriate for the president to flag this for should be in touch with our official challenge . I dont know the precise appropriateness of these kinds of relations. Now, were you involved, either of you involved in the preparation f...

Omnivore plaintiff's exhibitt complexities, correct? >> yes. >> i was concerned of rudy giuliani's statements. >> when it became concerned for you, what did you do to engage sondland and rudy giuliani and perry. by the way, did you ever meet rudy giuliani? >> no, mr. rudy giuliani visited ukraine one time when i was there in 2007 or 2008. you never had any communications with rudy giuliani as part of this irregular channel business? >> that's correct. >> and anyway, getting back to my question, did you try to engage fuel or the secretary during this time?