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To you. i think one of the most important pieces of sort of public service and what happened today is putting this issue on the map for the public. i think the public can -- something is wrong, these numbers have plunged faster than in any institution, more than the press, congress, more than the presidency, the supreme court's ratings are down i think 35% in 25 years. but there are different buckets of issues and i just want to sort of tease them out. one is the lack of an ethics code on par with the other branches. the other are serious questions raised through this investigative journalism ...

Any weaknesses, we try to bolster that up. a lot of the documents that project or detail areas of weakness are also management documents so that those weaknesses can be addressed. >> we appreciate you coming on and giving your perceptions on this it's very helpful. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you joining me now, nbc justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and "washington post" national editor phil rucker, who is one of the top editors dealing with all of this extraordinary reporting by "the washington post. phil, what we heard from chairman turner on this explosive reportin...

Based society that we live in. i had ten years of experience as a federal prosecutor in the department of justice. and i worked for the fbi every day. i worked as a staffer on the house intelligence committee. and i understand the intelligence community. and i'm going to bring that experience as a sober and truthful reminder to jim jordan and the other republicans as to how things actually work. and how important these executive agencies are to our communities safety and our national security. >> congressman, you're gonna have a lot of work to do. but with that mandate, you know, this committe...

Recenter this conversation around our democratic institutions, the rule of law, and the foundations of a rules based society that we live in. i had ten years of experience as a federal prosecutor in the department of justice, and i worked with the fbi every day. i worked as a staffer on the house intelligence committee, and i understand the intelligence community, and i'm going to bring that experience as a sober and truthful reminder to jim jordan and the other republicans as to how things actually work and how important these executive agencies are to our community's safety and to our nation...

>> congressman, you're gonna have a lot of work to do. but with that mandate, you know, this committee, the subcommittee is supposed to be investigating the weaponization of the federal government, there is actually an investigation that is warranted. and that is the durham investigation over a doj. the new york times had some explosive reporting on the ways in which then attorney general bill barr, what sounds like colluded with john durham, the special counsel who is retained to investigate the origins of the trump russia investigation. and the relationship between those two men sounded inap...