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Into in our 2020 lead, we're just hours away from biden, sanders, harris and buttigieg facing off. what do they and the other six need to do this evening? joining me is david axelrod, former chief strategist for barack obama's presidential campaign. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> what's the main thing you're looking for? >> obviously all eyes will be on biden. there is some expectation that bernie sanders will try to engage him. i think that's probably true, not so much to upsit biden's support, but a way to certify himself, bernie as the champion of the left. i think he'll use biden ...

They don't like, and they're obsessed with it. and then when somebody who they like comes into power, they suddenly aren't interested. and what it shows, they were really never serious about it. >> thanks for being here. follow me on facebook and twitter at jake tapper. tweet the show at the lead cnn. our coverage continues right now. thanks for watching. happening now, breaking news. smiles and denials. secretary of state mike pompeo and saudi rulers flash smiles during meetings in the disappearance of u.s.-based journalist jamal khashoggi, allegedly killed inside the consulate in istanbul....

Built-in group in washington, the intelligence community, media, some politicians all of whom did not want him to get elected, worked against it and are continuing to try to undermine his presidency. this makes sense to him, though i would argue the facts don't bear it out. >> what about kim jong un? on again, off again, conciliatory, not so conciliatory. we have a commemorative coin that's ready to be distributed. >> so this is the coin obviously that was prepressed prior to the cancellation. as you covered on the show this hour, wolf, maybe the uncancellation. we don't know. this was donald ...

Amazing. >> it might be better than donald trump. >> it's such a good point that donald trump rushed to bill o'reilly's defense last week, saying among other things he didn't think o'reilly had done anything wrong. and i think that's probably true. >> it's true. >> of course trump doesn't think there is anything wrong in what we read. >> you are a star and you get to grab people, and you get to harass them. not harass them. they are probably happy that you are doing it. i think it's interesting that it's ailes and o'reilly and trump would we now have done these hideous things. facing off again...

Anything wrong. and i think that's probably true. >> it's true. >> of course trump doesn't think there is anything wrong in what we read. >> you are a star and you get to grab people, and you get to harass them. not harass them. they are probably happy that you are doing it. i think it's interesting that it's ailes and o'reilly and trump would we now have done these hideous things. facing off against hillary clinton. >> all best buddies. >> facing off, destroying this women, the trauma for so many american women watching this. and also the great sense of pleasure we have now that 52 advertiser...