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But obviously we have a civil burden much lower. that would involve some novel application of laws that typically would not have been applied in that type of situation. we just have not had that fact pattern. the fact pattern in the mar-a-lago case is exactly what you described when you reported on the former fbi agent that just got sentenced to prison. this happens, i don't want to say all the time, but routinely enough where it is very open and shut, black and white type of case. any case brought against the former president of the united states should be just that. no special counsel or att...

Factually, not so problematic. i mean, i will fully disclose that i am suing donald trump for the estate of officer, capitol police officer michael sicknick, for january 6th. alleging essentially that he could be prosecuted for a crime, but obviously we have a civil burden, much lower. that would involve some novel application of laws that typically would not have been applied in that type of situation. we just have not had that fact pattern. the fact pattern in the mar-a-lago case is exactly what you described when you reported on the former fbi agent that just got sentenced to prison. this h...

He had congressional republicans rally behind him, saying oh no, we can't prosecute a former president just because he appears to be a felon. in terms of the impact, the more trouble that donald trump gets into, in terms of his legal liabilities, the more support he has in the polls. i look back, i think it was about a century ago where eugene debs ran for president from behind bars. right now that's an obscure, trivial detail. i'm wondering, -- next year. >> cynthia, let's talk about what's going on in georgia, because we're all waiting to see what happens. there's a lot of non legal people w...

E thatindividu simple to your point,john john kirby, he did a really good job. the pentagon made the afghanistan withdrawalpatt terrible fact pattern, joey. mas was ourse, 13 marines lost. that was not an easy thing for john kirby to go to the podiumd and talk about terribl e facts, answe but he answered questions far more than his boss did. re d anand then he went over to the white house. >> and this is what we joey: ge. yeah, maybe there's something there, maybe certain.mayb maybe there's some there. they're noe there's so t just on the corruption, but on the drinking water. >>ahwate yeah., ...

Presidency as he was transiting from the white house to mar-a-lago and other places. we're going to wait and watch and report is and see where this thing goes, but it does feel like it's reaching a conclusion. and you know, as our legal experts would tell you, almost anyone else in this situation with this fact pattern would already have been charged. obviously this is a much different situation, wel have to see where it goes. >> i see you shaking your head there, dave, what are you thinking? >> this is a big deal. the department of justice doesn't need to have classified documents to file cha...