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we're not looking for a new cold war. and i make no apologies, and we will compete. and we'll responsibly manage that competition so that it doesn't veer into conflict. paul: let's bring in seth jones, senior vice president of the center for strategic and international studies and author of the book, "three dangerous men: russia, china, iran and the rise of irregular warfare." seth, welcome. good to the see you again. so what lessons do you draw froa balloon episode, and should americans be reassured by the way it was handled? >> paul, i brought two major lessons from the balloon inc...

Trump administration -- formerly, there was a single accreditor for most of these universities. the one that is threatening university of north carolina is one of several in the southern region, and the trump administration decided that schools could decide which accreditor they wanted to have make their case to. if so there is at least a little bit of leverage there for the university of north carolina. but dropping in the threat on them for trying to start a school devoted to free inquiry is really an intimidating tactic. paul: kim, accreditors are supposed to care about quality, right? they...