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Where he would go on a real specific policy level. >> sure. >> he has in some ways proven to be a praguetist and at the same time in this election season we're seeing him adopt more fiery rhetoric, the fairness argument is very much part of his platform. i wonder what you make of that sort of split between the bill clinton sort of centrist democrats and the warren style, new school, old-style democrats. >> well, bill clinton is a southerner. he is used to the kind of preachy politics that go over so well in a hall like that. he's very informative. barack obama is a different guy. he inspires a...

Don't deserve, that they didn't earn, and the obama model is that some people aren't getting things from the market that they do deserve and that they did earn. so part of the question that we will see is which one of those things resonates more. >> i don't know. as far as i've long thought the fairness argument is a fair one if you look at the broad trend lines of american society, the stagnating of the middle class wages from 1979 to the present, the weakening power of labor unions. to me, that romney strategy is carving out a very specific portion of the electorate, we talked about it befor...

>> zero percent doesn't sound like fair share. >> we also know that he has a history of being aggressive within the law of seeking tax shelters and tax breaks that are available to corporations and corporation people like mitt romney but are not available to the vast majority of americans. >> do you think people really want to tax success? do you think that's what they're about? >> no, they just don't want millionaires getting away with not paying anything, and i think politically it's a tough place for mitt romney if he were to release tax returns that showed he paid no tax in any of the last...

Can't get around by saying this is a distraction or just personal. the central issue in the campaign is -- >> zero percent doesn't sound like fair share. >> he has a history of being aggressive within the law of seeking tax shelters and tax breaks thash available to corporations and corporation people like mitt romney but are not available to the vast majority of americans. >> do you think people really want to tax success? >> no, they just don't want millionaires getting away with not paying anything, and i think politically it's a tough place for mitt romney if he were to release tax returns...

>> that's one of the central issues in this campaign, you can't get around by saying this is a distraction or just personal. the central issue in the campaign is -- >> zero percent doesn't sound like fair share. >> he has a history of being aggressive within the law of seeking tax shelters and tax breaks that are available to corporations and corporation people like mitt romney but are not available to the vast majority of americans. >> do you think people really want to tax success? dow jones that's what -- do you think that's what they're about? >> no, they just don't want millionaires getti...