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Classified documents snafu. the problem here fundamentally is that this is the republican playbook if there is a democratic president, it is to try to trump up, part the fund, some mock scandals and this case it is hunter biden. four years ago during the obama presidency, it would've benghazi nothing burger during bill clinton it was the whitewater case and later the lewinsky situation, which was -- on behalf of any of the presidencies, so i think whether it is mike pence taking on the subpoena, trump ignoring subpoenas the real problem will come if and when the indictment start to come down f...

Presidencies, so i think whether it is mike pence taking on the subpoena, trump ignoring subpoenas the real problem will come if and when the indictment start to come down for the big fish front-runner six. i think to the extent that republicans will try to use this period while the control the maturity to muddy the waters, create false equivalency's, let's be clear there is no equivalency between anything that hunter biden did and what the perpetrators of an attempt to overthrow the government led by former president trump and the folks around him to, not at all the same thing. >> dean we hav...

Dangerous what donald trump did. we're going to see false equivalency's for the republican party. and so sadly, this document taking from vice president biden is going to be a distraction. hunter biden obviously will be a distraction as well. he never made a hundreds of millions of dollars like jared and ivanka. jared kushner couldn't even get a security clearance yet and still -- still in the west wing doing with sensitive documents. even though countless individuals told the trump administration that jared kushner was a conflict of interest. that he should not and would not get clearance. he...

We only have, really, for all intensive purposes to parties. we are not like germany, we are not like other countries in europe that have many parties. i wish we did have a multi party system, but we don't. this is the system we have. given the system we have, we have to recognize that we need to take not only the independents, the moderates, the swing voters, fewer and fewer of them by the way, but we also have to mobilize our base. we have to make sure that we are being respectful to our base who does not want crazy things. you are absolutely right to point out the false equivalency's. this ...

A few months earlier, they said you know, your left and bernie sanders would be considered moderate here, because we have all of those things. lashes be clear about that. i would appreciate you pointing out the ridiculousness of false equivalency's. >> what about the increasing rural and urban divide? the fact is that democrats are able to win some of these races because of such's port in urban senators which are increasingly growing. but when you become a party that is largely centered in urban parts of the country, it is a problem when every state, including ones in the center of the country...