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Self-deliant thing that congress has ever done. these corporate expenditures actually do protect incumbents and in the mccain/feingold bill congress determined that it was necessary in order to prevent corruption to prevent those expenditures. but, you know, the court said no. >> well, tell that to blanche lincoln. how incumbents are protected. in this case, the speech in which citizens united. i think about blanche lincoln one of the nicer people around here who had $10 million spent against her by the unions just because they disagreed with her on one or two votes. i mean, you know, let me k...

>> corporate purposes. >> david? as we know the five of six justices in the supreme court took this case and expanded it even more so what got president obama riled up and took a bigger swing at the mccain/feingold bill and solicitor general kagan appearing before and it was decried as judicial activism by people on the left and then liberals in the "new york times." mccain's political point is to stop that narrative because it has been absorbed that citizens united went too far. >> this came out in the president's state of the union where he took a swipe at the supreme court with justice alit...

Corporations in america. we have 56,000 in my home state of utah alone. these are small companies who want the legal protections that incorporating provides. these are family farmers, ranchers, mom and pop stores and other small businesses. before the citizens united decision, these small family businesses could be barred from using their regular budget for say a radio program or even a pamphlet opposing their congressman for his vote on a bill, if it was that close to an election. now, do you believe the constitution gives the federal government this much power? >> senator hatch, congress det...

The administration was trying very hard to enact the mccain sla mccain/fine fold bill. they weren't my personal constitutional or legal views or anything like that, but just a set of talking points that i prepared for, i think it was the press office. it might have been for the president himself. >> well, you were listed that creator. >> i created a lot of talking points in my time. >> okay. okay. i accept that. i want to turn to the supreme court's decision in citizens united versus fic for a little bit. i've seen media reports in a meeting with at least one of your colleagues on this committ...