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Want to play a part of that exchange. >> sure. >> you know, we have not seen any evidence of that. and i think the fbi director would be the first to say that he's heard anecdotal suggestions that that may be happening in selective sites but we don't know. and, you know, as i said in the speech in chicago last week, we're not as a society that has to choose between either discriminatory policing or excusing the handful of bad apples to engage in that or we have sky high crime rates. that's not the choice we have to make. >> does the president appear to be at odds with the fbi director? >> yeah...

To debate you? >> aeeverybody wants to be woodward and bernstein. they didn't go after any democrats, either. the fact is that's the deal. they want to make themselves famous. they're more important. and they get to brag to their friends at the cocktail parties on the weekends. look what i did to that republican. >> true. >> that's what motivates a lot of this stuff. listen, the other thing i say if you want to be president of the united states, you want to debate hillary clinton next fall, you got to be tough enough to deal with that. >> i got that, but you know what, there's a certain sense,...

Listen, the president came to my state today to take credit for something he's got nothing to do with. crime rates since i've been governor is down 20% in new jersey, and the prison population is down 10%. why? because what we've done is focus on the real violent criminals, sean, and we're backing up police officers on the street. in camden, the murder rate is now down 53% in the last 3 years because we put a new police force in there. we backed them up and they're working with the community. >> 53%. you don't think we should send the cops out in ice cream trucks as some are suggesting? >> no,...

>> no, if they did, they would go after hillary. >> no woodward and bernstein for the republicans. they didn't go after any democrats, either. the fact is that's the deal. they want to make themselves famous. they're more important. and they get to brag to their friends at the cocktail parties on the weekends. look what i did to that republican. >> t >> that's what motivates a lot of this stuff. listen, the other thing i say if you want to be president of the united states, you want to debate hillary clinton next fall, you got to be tough enough to deal with that. >> i got that, but you know w...

Of millions of incidents every year with cops with people, interaction. why all of a sudden is it on cops? it's the ferguson effect. >> thank you, guys, for what you're doing. appreciate it. we got to defend these guys. their lives are are at risk zblchbl. coming up next tonight on "hannity." >> having the faith -- >> being christian -- >> comments on someone that you're -- >> not at all. not at all. >> nasty comments said about dr. benjamin carson on nbc. we'll explain that and much more straight ahead. before earning enough cash back from bank of america to take their act to the next level...