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Primarily, inviting ices. most of the russian military maneuvers in syria have not been targeting isis. they been targeting the moderate population that's fighting assad. i hope that during this trip in the region, particularly, in saudi arabia, it made clear to donald trump that russia is not on the same page as the united states in syria. julie: i'm glad we got that out there. that's a lesson that we will be spoken about on this trip. also, i mentioned to president trump first president obama and one of president trump key goals has been to systematically reverse the policies of his predeces...

>> let's talk about policy as you wish. let's talk about tillerson, switching from five days ago hands off to we're going to get rid of assad. how do you read that, positively or negatively? >> well, it's head-spinning -- >> but it's different. so what do you make of the difference, of the change? >> so i think donald trump watched tv, and he saw -- >> are you with him on this? are you with him on this switch towards an interventionist mode right now, which is we're going to help dump this royal family of syria? >> absolutely not, right? this is a return to the kind of hubris that donald trump...

Assad, who is not a good guy, but we're backing people to fight assad. we have no idea. look at hillary clinton, what happened with libya. >> somehow syria and world war iii don't go along great to me. we can't be fighting assad, and when you're fighting assad, you're fighting russia. you're fighting a lot of different groups. but we can't be fighting everybody at one time. >> you can't fight them both. you got to pick your guy. you got to pick your guy. and i'll tell you who i'd pick. >> but she's trigger-happy, and she wants to start shooting wars in syria. what the hell are we doing with sy...

Message about what he thinks about america's latest statement from this administration a few days ago that assad wasn't really a problem we are concerned with and he could stay in power. this is something donald trump had been saying for 18 months or more. when someone like marco rubio would say on a big stage dur prd to get aside. trump would start talking about how we have all these stupid adventures in the middle east and we wasted so much money. we be better off with assad empower them with him out of power because of the terrace would just take over. this is just a complete reversal of ev...

They want to leave themselves face if assad decides to react, if he decides to carry out another attack, they need room to escalate, frankly. if they were to have to respond again. they have to leave something on the table. they decided that even though senator john mccain and lindsey graham today had been calling for the trump administration to take out assad's air force, to eliminate the air force so they can't barrel bombs his people again, so he can't ever conduct eight chemical weapon strike. he has missiles that he can launch chemical weapons with. this was a warning, this is a warning t...