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Operated. >> brent, do you agree? have you been surprised by the intensity he talks about? >> i'm not sure if surprise is the right word. there's been a lot of intensity and pushback. but i honestly would have said we expected that. i think the fact that we had the first -- the nation's first minority president elected. many said this is the end of ris discrimination. that's not the case. you've seen this active effort by eliminating section five and states trying to pass these restrictive voting laws. instead of playing fair and allowing one person, one vote, they're trying to game the system...

Representation. what kind of impact could that case have? >> that would be more devastating than getting rid of section five. that would undermine the strength of latino voting and cut the congressional spending caucus in half and devastating to minority communities across the country. we see that as a very serious threat. >> in a recent interview, eric holder reacted to a question about voting rights challenges in the obama era. here's what he had to say. >> for all that we thought that would mean, the election of barack obama, and it's meant substantial positive things, but it's also galvani...

To restrict voting. "the new york times" tells the story of pasadena, texas, a deep dive into the history of hispanic voting rights. the strategies being used that he writes about are many and it's hard to do them justice in this space. his reporting is raising new questions about whether the local republican establishment is actively trying to suppress a growing minority of untapped voters. a minority who could soon be a majority. joining me is brett wilks. thank you for being on. the supreme court is considering a case that would dramatically shift voter representation. instead of counting t...

>> he's a sad case. it's been very sad to watch him. that's a sound bite given to him by his pollster. the way he said it. let's see, i'm supposed to say he's not no gravitas. he's down to less than three in the polls. >> is this going to be effective in iowa? what happened to iowa nice? do they like this sort of thing? >> the whole issue about the ground game is really important in iowa. but two things strike me. one, we pay too much attention to the polls, period, in general, which is the only reason we're talking about trump all the time. and the second thing is why are the caucuses in iowa...

What is your organization doing to fight these voter restriction efforts and what are you hearing from the latino community specifically? >> on the one side, we actually are engaging on these lawsuits. we're providing briefs or leading the suits. the problem with eliminating section five used to be the justice department would preclear these states moves like this. in the case of these lawsuits, most of the time the restrictive voting laws go into place. damage is being done, even if we end up winning. the elections took place before. it's a serious problem for us and we're fighting case by ca...