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Mcconnell did in suspending the filibuster. i hope that figures into all your calculations. senator jeff merkley has been out front on all these issues. thank you for spending some time with us today. the i mean, are we about to enter into a debate in this country about minority rule, about obstruction, about what is the filibuster? >> we're going to enter into that debate and enter into what is american democracy and who should have access to it? this will fundamentally be a debate in talking to white house officials, this is going to be a debate about whether or not we want america to be the...

Little give and they haven't started those negotiations yet. before you were talking to senator durbin. when phil mattingly was talking about the white house being keenly aware that there weren't votes to get. through that's one avenue. the other is chuck schumer's passionate speech on the senate floor, is that being delivered to joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to get them to change on the filibuster issue. if you saw the 50 democrats names, they're not unified on filibuster reform. what is the effort underway for that so they could get their changes critical to our democracy with just 50 votes...

Republicans. number two, and democrats get mad at me for repeating this, but until kyrsten sinema and joe manchin get out of the way of reforming the filibuster and we pass the john lewis vote rights act, this will continue to happen in state after state. >> that filibuster issue has come up once again. texas governor greg abbott has already said this bill must pass in a spec threatening to veto fg for the texas legislature. he's pulling out all the stops here. >> he is. i mean, texas legislators in the house, i think they make about $270 a year. they're part-time legislators. they've already ...

No man has done more in recent years to undermine the functioning of u.s. government. what do you think about that, chris? >> i think that is simply ridiculous. so first of all, let's look at the filibuster issue. the filibuster issue was something that was put in place by harry reid. it is the xwoghost of harry rei returning. so to somehow suggest that mitch mcconnell is single handedly responsible for getting rid of the filibuster is not in keeping with the facts. >> but chris, i want to talk about the facts quickly because when you look at the number of filibusters in this republican-led se...

Seems like that's the only thing that democrats would be able to accept. >> meanwhile, the countdown clock is on because it is happening tonight in prime time. >> gillian: on the filibuster issue, i would just say that don't underestimate the galvanizing power that something like this weekend's executive order on immigration and refugees will have on the democratic party. they are now not just looking at this as a supreme court nomination issue. they are looking to this as the first sort of rebuttal they are going to have to the events of the weekend. and i think from that perspective, as megh...