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Everyday that goes by, it's later. this is a critical first test and then they're filing deadlines that are looming and that's georgias filing deadlines and then early november, so there's a point in which it just becomes too late for him to get into the campaign and if he announced that there's a big catching up to do in terms of fund raidsing and in terms of organizing a ground game and some of the early voting states. those supporters like draft biden and urging him to make the e can situation soon, want to see him get in, but a big question mark around that. >> from people that you're talk...

To give you the best experience possible. because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. turning now to presidential politics here in the united states. allies of the vice president joe biden take yet another step in preparing for a possible white house run. biden's team met with the democratic national committee to discuss filing deadlines for filing state deadlines. and that according to a senior official. and also that bide n is plannin a family meeting in delaware to talk about his political future. let's bring in alex castellanos who is our democratic strategist

She hasn't introduced herself well enough after that debate performance. she's been doing well in the polls, but the challenge for her campaign is to continue these introductions, hammer her biography at events like this, talking about her time as a secretary, her leadership at hp, a business record which she has come under fire for. carly fiorina saying she'll run on her record all day long. and that seems to be how the campaign is framing, at least at this moment in time, she's a leader who can make tough decisions, and she says that's what washington needs right now. >> tomorrow, i know the...

Time. i don't get a sense he's about to get in. >> what's the final drop dead date for him? >> depends on how you look at it. >> thanksgiving? >> conventional standards and filing deadlines around thanksgiving. some democrats are arguing about this, wait until iowa and new hampshire because even though you miss some filing deadlines you have room to deal with. if sanders beats her in iowa or new hampshire and there's no other major candidate in the race there will be panic. >> coming up on "morning joe" the u.s. secretary of state john kerry will be right here on set with us. also white house ...

And then they look different again in march and april from the way they looked in january. the problem are the deadlines. as joe biden indicated. >> what are the real deadlines? >> the real deed deadlines are december. he doesn't actually have to decide, or al gore, have to decide by october/november. but by december you have these filing deadlines for the big primary states that come up in the winter and spring of 2016. and so they do have to make some kind of a decision by then or they won't be on the ballot in those big states and can't get the delegates to get the nomination. but there is ...