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Problem. leaders in both parties are saying that companies like amazon, google's parent company alphabet, facebook, apple, have too much power. abusing influence. and this week the house judiciary committee began hearings on the topic. it looks like the justice department and the ftc are gearing up for their own investigations with the urging from 43 state attorney generals, all asking the fed to take some kind of action on the tech titans over pry isn't acompetition what does it mean? is good for us, bad for us? we're discussing it with tech investor roger mcnam ee the author of zucked. weigh...

Particularly on the right, but also on the extreme left, the development of people who live in an alternative reality, do not accept what's going on in the world, and that has been a core part of how trump got elected. the manipulation of voters by the russians and the voter suppression done by the trump campaign itself were both highly dependent on those filter bubbles. last people on earth who politically people should be complaining is the trump family. >> we're glad we have you to help us out with this. i'm anxious to read your book. when does it come out? >> february 5th. people can preor...

Antivax or obama and kenya. they go in just being curious, but they wind up -- and again, they're on facebook at least once a day so it doesn't take very long of being inundated. when they talk about filter bubbles, this is what they talk about. each person living in their own set of facts. it's like we have our own truman show, there are 2.2 billion of them on facebook. facebook complicates all this because it treats campaign advertising as a really important business opportunity. and so it aids campaigns. and there are ways that it does that, that create unfair advantages for candidates. the...

Good to see you. thank you for being with us. what does making people pay for the content on facebook do to improve this particular situation? is there some sense that if i'm a paying going to have more control over it? what's the issue? >> so, ali, the way to think about this is in an advertising business model, the user isn't the customer. the user is the product. and so facebook is currently generating nearly $7 a month in the united states from each user, and the incentives created by that advertising model are what create -- we've talked in the past about filter bubbles. this notion that ...

Really important, is that there are better business models than the ad model facebook has now an i want to help them shift the model to take the pressure off so they don't have to put people in filter bubbles or have to addict them. because that is become a public health crisis, for kids and adult as and now for the country. >> roger mcnamee. thank you very much. i know you are one of ali's favorites. thank you for coming on. >> you are one of my favorites. and as they gather in davos switzerland, many want to know what message president trump will actually deliver when he gets there tomorro...