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David, we haven't talked to you thus far. what are your thoughts on the information that's come out so far? >> well, anderson, in every investigation i've ever run, most difficult thick thing is not to jump to the most common and accepted answer right away. there are other things. if you to that, you miss what's right in front of your face. and if you look at that video, the first thing you see is the impact and the explosion. if this were a missile, do you think the aircraft would have come down with no smoke, no trail, nothing at all and simply hit the ground and explode on the ground? i don...

Proximity, guided by radar, not the heat of the engines. a heat-seeker will go to the engine and you'll get exactly what david is talking about. but if it in fact exploded in proximity of the tail, you would not necessarily get a fire on the aircraft, but you certainly would lose control of the aircraft, it would break up in-flight. it would match everything we're seeing here. but going back to what david said, putting blinders on at this stage, is not a good idea at all. i think we have plenty of evidence right now on the ground, and there will be concrete evidence, to find out if the explosi...

That for -- as an investigator, which david is, you don't want to speculate, you don't want to go into it, you don't want to rule anything out at this stage. >> yeah. and that's the most important point here. what -- you just have to systematically go through this. we have plenty of evidence. there was an in-flight break-up here. we have seen pieces of wreckage in other locations that do not -- they're not impacted by fire or explosion. we see that streaming down wreckage, which is hauntingly similar to the footage you see after the explosion of the "challenger" which we have all seen many tim...

Delayed explosion that was implanted? >> no, i'm talking about the warhead on the suspected missile, the alleged missile that would have hit this. it's 150 pounds and high explosion with fragmentation, and it's a radar proximity fuse. so would that give you the same kind of characteristic you were describing? >> well, certainly would. first of all, you're talking about implanting the head of that warhead missile into an aircraft flying at 32,000 feet flying at 480 knots. so it would have to have gotten into the aircraft and exploded later? is that what you're trying to say? if it impacts the a...

Device quite so sophisticated with a devastating range. giving that to a bunch of separatist who your relations are frayed. it's tricky to find out what happened. and i should point out one thing i feel slightly uncomfortable with. when you see the plane come down in the amateur video we've been showing, there is a substantial explosion. and it had a six-mile journey from having been hit. the point of impact right down to the ground. interesting to work out quite what could have exploded when it still hit the impact on the ground, what fuel there could still have been and any wreckage. a lot o...