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Where it breaks apart, those pieces are far from the impact zone. so what my concern was at first was that we might be jumping to a conclusion and as an accident investigator, that's the hardest thing not to do, is to jump to the most obvious conclusion, and the most coincidental conclusion. so when you look at this video, though, you'll miss things that are in front of your face. and by looking at this video, not the one showing now, but the one prior when we showed the actual impact point, you can see there is nothing leading to that impact point. in a missile explosion, and i've asked spite...

35,000 feet in the sky. the fact that you have radar that can do this -- we have democratized violence in a sense and made it accessible. but what we haven't done is created systems and structures to control or regulate and so that's why you can have something like this happen. some group. all it needed was to be given this weaponry, easy to operate, and yet can cause devastating damage. >> then you look at other areas of the world where this has the potential. i mean, you look at isis in -- fighting in iraq right now, getting this weaponry, which the u.s. left behind and the u.s. helped train...

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David, we haven't talked to you thus far. what are your thoughts on the information that's come out so far? >> well, anderson, in every investigation i've ever run, most difficult thick thing is not to jump to the most common and accepted answer right away. there are other things. if you to that, you miss what's right in front of your face. and if you look at that video, the first thing you see is the impact and the explosion. if this were a missile, do you think the aircraft would have come down with no smoke, no trail, nothing at all and simply hit the ground and explode on the ground? i don...

That everybody is talking about, the standard warhead on that missile is set to go off in the proximity of the aircraft, not just strike the aircraft. >> so doesn't actually hit the aircraft. >> it's not a kinetic hit. and what -- it's about 150 pounds of practicing mentation. >> and so you're saying -- >> i don't know what kind of damage that would cause to that aircra aircraft, but would that give that kind of signature you were talking about? >> well, maybe i could compare that to just an engine that has titanium parts. when that engine comes apart, and let's look at sioux city, for example...