Obviously his behavior off air matters much more than what he does on air. all i'm saying is this. this culture changes because it changes at the top. firing talent is hard financially. it is not hard from a management position. changing your culture, what you allow to be settled, how you deal with it when it comes to the workplace, who makes those decisions, that's culture, corporate. that's hard. we don't see that. we see them getting rid of lauer, charlie rose. >> anybody who doubted we were in a tipping point. >> matt lauer has not commented on it yet. i'm trying to get comment on him. >> ...