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>> i actually would agree with that, and the actions putin has taken consistently are responsible. we would prefer to have a more stable relationship. i think that would be of benefit to people in the united states, in russia, indeed around the world. >> ryan, how hard can we expect biden to go against putin, and is a stable relationship possible when you have issues like cyberwarfare? >> well, i think dialogue is a precondition for having any form of improved relationship. that's clearly the driving factor of why biden is having the meeting in the first place. and it's choreographed in a fair...

Towered over the russian leader, looking down on him and pointing at him as he spoke. don't touch the voting machines. don't touch the data. stay out of the systems. the cia could see they were trying to get in. the book is called "battle for the soul." inside the book who wrote is, tell us more about what we didn't hear about that last meeting? >> thanks for having me, alicia. what was going on, that was a g7 meeting in china, and it wasn't a formal summit. obama took him to task and they were standing there with a bunch of aides, including susan rice at the time and interpreters. putin was d...