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And he was caught flat footed. >> which is what makes the recess so risky. >> good point. >> gives -- you might give a vacuum that trump gets to fill. >> especially for two weeks. >> the people happiest about this recess are senate republicans. they have had the most awkward time. so many have literally said i've not read the complaint. >> like seven pages. i mean -- >> yeah. there is an audio. >> an audio book if you are really lazy. >> middle schoolers who get assigned more homework than this and they are purposely deciding not to read it because they don't want to comment on it. >> one of t...

>> chip off the president's block. the president feels no obligation to be honest. with the media or american public or anybody. lying is a new art form in the administration. it's holy. he's reflecting that. >> part of the issue is shame doesn't work. in trump land. you have to have other tools at the ready to do something. if not impeachment. contempt of congress one would imagine. we talking about this. the legality of this better than i do. you're an attorney. there has to be power legally exercised here: shame and public berating and talking heads on cable tv will not get them to behave. ...

It's more about the pageantry, it's more about getting them in the room. and then i think he got cold feet. and it wasn't only the u.s. that kind of canceled the meeting. you know, president trump might have put the final stamp ton with those tweets where are which i might kalil's team was caught flat footed. i think it complicates things for them. they didn't even know about the meeting. but the taliban wasn't thrilled about coming because they didn't want to be coming to meet with president trump before a deal was signed. and afghan president ghani didn't necessarily want to be here when he'...

Would have thought she would. >> it's fascinating, too. pardon me, we are here at the end of the summer. use the quinnipiac poll as an example. two things, you mentioned kamala harris, also this biden number, look how far apart they are right now, 32% for biden, kamala harris back at 7%. we've seen this in a few different polls and think back to just two months ago, that first democratic debate here on nbc, you had that showdown, kamala harris went after joe biden, seemed to catch him flat footed. remember, there were polls that came out in the week or two after that debate this had biden supp...

Biden, can you guys, what are you watching for her this evening. what should we expect? >> with that good performance comes with it some high expectations for tonight. she's going to have a target on herself, not only from joe biden, but you had tulsi gabbard targeting her. she's going to take a shot at kamala harris, and how she handles questions about her medicare for all plan. about her record, maybe as a prosecutor, it seems like joe biden is coming ready this time, he's not going to be caught as flat footed as we saw the last time. >> you hope not, right? >> that's what they're projecting...