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You had the federal government watching russia poke and probe electoral infrastructure, and we didn't know what their motives were. it was an extremely tense time. there were hundreds if not thousands of people within the u.s. government laser focussed on this. it was a very sensitive time. >> evan, one of the recommendations in the report is that the u.s. create a list of what they call potential responses to hostile foreign powers to send a clear message. if you try this, something is going to happen to you. what are they talking about? >> well, you know, i think they want to make sure that ...

At his heels. and i think kamala harris will want to show she can be not necessarily center but at least center left. >> first time around he was on the second night, still seemed flat footed. biden and kamala harris will be on the stage together again. amy, can we expect round two or do you think the brawl is over? >> we can totally expect round two. it is the thriller in detroit, it is going to go down. i think kamala harris will be bringing it even more strongly because she senses an opportunity. there's blood in the water. biden was damaged by her attacks the last time and i think she can ...

Punches in the presidential election. >> and david you're a trump supporter and you're bullish on biden. >> i have. not so much these days. >> and as a pennsylvanian you know he worked well withar arlen specter. and take a look at this as to whether the strategy is working. 35% of voters in south carolina support biden and the next closest is sanders at 14% and harris at 12%. and when you look at black democratic voters, they're pivotal, more overwhelming support biden, 41% with the next candidate at 15%. so if harris is trying to make voters see biden as not comfortable enough with civil righ...

And didn't want it to stand and he wanted to find a way around it. now certainly bill barr was having those conversations with the president. he was caware of the president' views and because the census forms begun to print and two, because the supreme court ruling was what it was, he proceeded with his em employployees to sa listen, right now the issue is dormant and we can almost come back to it. so you saw the justice department attorneys go out and represent themselves publicly and very humiliating fashion be contradicted by the president on twitter. it's hard to imagine a worse set of cir...

Up to the decision. you had the supreme court basically give its ruling and you had president trump tell attorney general bill barr he was extremely unhappy with it and didn't want it to stand and he wanted to find a way around it. now certainly bill barr was having those conversations with the president. he was aware of the president's views and because the census forms begun to print and two, because the supreme court ruling was what it was, he proceeded with his employees to say listen, right now the issue is dormant and we can almost come back to it. so you saw the justice department attor...