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Precisely what happened to this flight. no stone will be left unturned. if it con spires that the plane was indeed shot down, we insist that the perpetrators must swiftly be brought to justice. >> that was the prime minister of malaysia today asking for a full investigation into what happened with malaysian flight 17. the president has asked for assistance from the international naval association as well as assistance from the netherlands and malaysia. the last time a commercial plane was shot down was in 1998 when they shot down ran flight 655.

The tunnels would be within a kilometer of the border. even then if we have seen on the u.s. efforts against north korean tunnels, it's difficult to discover these things. they will have to go find entranceways with intelligence with rewards for people turning into the tunnels. it could be an extended operation. certainly if they look in pop lated areas for a missile cache, they will be there a week. >> thank you, sir. we will continue on msnbc to cover the shooting down of flight 17 as information comes in. at this hour, no americans have been identified as being on that plane. the investig...

20, 1978, korean airlines flight 902 which diverted from its planned course on a flight from paris to seoul and sprtrayed ov the soviet union after being fired upon an interceptor aircraft, the crew made a landing on the surface of a frozen lake, two were killed by hostile fire. the second was on september 1, 1983. korean airlines 007 was shot down by one soviet air missile after the 747 strayed into soviet airspace. all 240 passengers and 29 crew members were killed. and the third was on july 3, 1988. iranian aircraft flight 655 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile by uss vincens.

Already avoided the airspace and then you have airlines like lufthansa that just announced today in the aftermath of this that henceforth, they would avoid the airspace. emirates turned around a flight that was en route to kiev. again, if indeed the report was that the airspace was closed at 32,000 feet and this flight was at 33,000 feet the pilot was legal so i'm not sure you can draw that conclusion. >> jim cavanaugh, captain tom bunn and scott hamilton, thank you for joining us on "the ed show" as we continue our coverage. coming up, president obama and vladimir putin had a phone call earli...

But if that is the case, what you will see is the department of justice rush and if there are american tragedies which there are rors out there that there were americans on this flight that those families can then seize russian assets here in north america especially in our country and hold those russian assets so that these american families will get justice. i know it's civilly, but we need to make sure the perpetrators over there are held accountable. >> i want your take on the fact that the president did what he did yesterday with sanks on russia and now this 24 hours later. >> i don't thi...