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Other two cases, where the general six investigators recommended two additional trump advisers for prosecution, the justice department declined to prosecute. so, i mean, bottom line, within the constraints of just thinking about this particular investigation, there is no reason to expect, one way or the other, what the justice department might do with these referrals. they are absolutely free to ignore them if they want to. that said, these referrals are weighty. they are not a flipping thing. this is not some individual when not a member of congress popping off and telling the justice departm...

They don't want to. indeed, the january 6th investigation has already made for criminal referrals to the justice department already, all of them for contempt. two of the four cases, doj bring up prosecution, steve bannon was convicted on contempt, remains out of jail for now, while he appeals his conviction. another trump advisor named peter navarro, who is a dear friend of our friend, i remember, he is still awaiting trial, and i'm teasing you, ari. in the other two cases, where the general six investigators recommended two additional trump advisers for prosecution, the justice department dec...

The justice department declined to prosecute. so, i mean, bottom line, within the constraints of just thinking about this particular investigation, there is no reason to expect, one way or the other, what the justice department might do with these referrals. they are absolutely free to ignore them if they want to. that said, these referrals are weighty. they are not a flipping thing. this is not some individual when not a member of congress popping off and telling the justice department, hey, i want you to investigate my brother in law, right? these referrals are the result of an 18-month inve...

Actually -- accept that. >> the evidence would have to be there but there is also circumstantial stuff that can be put together that could put the heat on somebody. you were mentioning some of the mob cases. under the rico act in terms of the way the racket earring act work it's loose in terms of being able to expand the net of prosecution. listen, you're not really getting a lot of disagreement from me. i don't think the flipping thing should end. i think what the president is expressing there is ventilation. he is upset. and just to be very candid he is the leader of the free world and contr...

Flippers isn't exactly outside the realm of his world. and i go back to, if he has absolutely nothing to hide, is completely innocent, why does he care? >> well, again, i just tried to explain that to you, ana. he's afraid that somebody would lie and say that he did something wrong when, in fact, he didn't. so, that's why he cares. >> but the evidence would have to be there in order to actually accept that. >> ah, the evidence would have to be there, but there's also circumstantial stuff that can get put together that could put the heat on somebody. you know, you were mentioning some of the mo...