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Still means something. i wish it would have meant something two years ago when we asked mr. mcgahn to come in. but we did ultimately prevail. more importantly, it showed just how close we came to a true constitutional crisis in our country. and that this is not a 500 year fly type of situation, that this could happen again under more competent, corrupt president. so what we could do, well, adam schiff has the protecting our democracy act. which would make a lot of reforms around presidential abuses. i also believe that president biden can instruct his attorney general to lift the department of...

Could be a problem to come to her defense. >> absolutely, but it's more important to him to solve the real problems facing america than it is to get cheep political points. >> he scored points, bernie sanders in that exchange. >> without question. it was -- i believe it was completely unscripted, but it wasn't a political mistake, because i think most democrats shared the view. he has, at least about the benghazi part of the committee investigation what mccarthy said and so on. so he was speaking for a lot of people, but the wind up was just the pitch after was really strong because he got his...

Against, this idea that you can be for marriage equality but you can also be for people being discriminated against because they're gay and lesbian. >> i think that speaks a little to his rustiness of a candidate. he's trying to thread the needle, fudge it. if you're going to take a side just own it. i know this was an on the fly type of answer but he is sort of trying to have it both ways. i tell people a good way to look at it is to flip it. if you were in utah you encountered a mormon or certain establishments that would not deal with you because you were not a member of the lds faith. most...

More damaging. for him to say i'm not a bully and taking action, is a key part of what he's got to do today. the next part is that trip to fort lee. i spoke to aides who say they don't have anything set up yet but he is absolutely going to be in fort lee today. they are going to try to work that out with the mayor of fort lee. that was a big part of the conversation, if not, what should he do? there's a bit of an on the fly type of moment happening for the christie team. off to my right in the room, the governor's left were his key advisers who are watching this throughout. i was told it went ...