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richard haass. and nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. also with us, the founder of the conservative website, charlie. liz cheney, one of two republicans serving on the committee, went on fox news yesterday to defend the committee's work. here's how she responded to a question about why capitol police weren't better prepared for the attack. >> it's an entire focus of the investigation. you will see in our report. you'll likely see in upcoming hearings, so it is certainly something we're going to be focused on. but what we aren't going to do, brett, is blame the capitol police, ...

Is the republican party has a collective action problem. everybody seems to be looking at everybody else, like, you're going to do something about this, right? you're not going to let this happen again, right? you don't want to be the one who is going to throw yourself on the political hand grenade like liz cheney did. i mean, there's a lot of focus on whether, you know, ron desantis will run and whether he'd be able to take him on. there's some polls suggesting he might be competitive. but he is competitive in a one-to-one race. what if, in fact, we have a replay of 2015 and 2016, where you h...

Linda tripp. i think that's part of it. some of it could also be foreshadowing what republicans are going to do in the senate when they -- if they were to control a lot more in a senate trial. right now i don't think -- i think this is really a sham and sort of a diversion. actually, we may end up seeing some of these people called when this gets to the senate. >> that's an interesting thought. i hadn't gone there yet, that far ahead. but molly, we have this response from adam schiff now. he does control who ultimately ends up testifying public because he's the chair of the house intelligence ...

For so long was aadvocating against the president. to what extent do you think it is a john dowd memo that he's making here? >> i think that's a big part of it as careful said, this is a case that they've been laying out in public for some time. i do think the focus on whether -- what trump did meets the precise definition for example of obstruction of justice or whether he could technically be charged or shut down the investigation into him, it's a little bit diversionary because the real question at least regarding president trump himself whether mueller puts together a report that could ult...

Whether his attorneys, in the end, are going to let him sit down with the special counsel, because this comes as they're negotiating his potential testimony. >> it adds an open question, will he even sits down with him. these topics, jeffrey, what does it say to you about the president's potential vulnerability? >> well, it says a lot of bad news and a little good news for donald trump. it's bad news, because these questions all focus on whether donald trump himself obstructed justice. i mean, that has been the core of the investigation. remember, the whole issue that prompted the hiring of ro...