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People. putin is strongly enmeshed. >> the ukrainian president zelenskyy, he went to bucha, he toured those scenes there and how do you sit down across the table and wage for peace when someone has been a brutal, brutal actor. you have to have trust. how do you trust vladimir putin? >>. >> reporter: this is the issue in dealing with him with anything. there was so much lying and subterfuge that led up to the invasion of ukraine. it will be difficult to trust anything the russians said at all heading forward. they will have to find a way to either force concessions or moderation or some sort of...

>> eboni: as a bit more complicated, eric. he said he's didn't not doing . he said he was compelled -- me when i was pretty tired, but i never killed said i killed any. sleep deprivation, i don't know what that's like. are they forcing them awake? can you really do like you make there's been times where nothing can keep me awake because i'm tired and i'm asleep anyway. >> eboni: . here's the thing. i think this guy is disgusting. certainly, he did what he did. but force concessions, they are a real problem in the country. central park five. kat, people can be made to stay up for 24-26 hours at...