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That's the situation that guatemala is in and we have a couple of boxes to check ourselves before this gets fully implemented but this is a tremendous international relation's breakthrough and it will be a game-changer once we are able to fully implement it much like the remain in méxico policy has been a tremendous help since we've been implementing it and frankly expanding it with the participation and cooperation of méxico. ainsley: only way you can get asylum is if you can proof that you are being persecuted, your life is at risk in home country. now, william barr says he wants to end th...

To stay behind bars for like 2 days. jillian: oh, my gosh. ainsley: they had to figure that out. >> the guy tried to take a chain saw on board. >> what? >> no, you can't bring it. >> sometimes i should question if i should bring my razer. >> do you have airport -- meanwhile forcing guatemala to a third -- safe-third country agreement is insane, it would turn the country into a concentration camp. are you kidding? we will talk about it. steve: acting director citizenship and immigration services ken reacts next.

Pathetically is really -- they are just trying to cause trouble and not concentration camp language is totally inappropriate, why do you think we are seeing rising violence at officers and so much vitriol here and that's a great example of it and it really has no place in the public discussion, i'm sorry to see a periodically like the hill carry something that bad because it really goes nowhere in helping us and just quickly on the third country, we refer to this safe-third country agreement, that's a term, not a legal term, and to use just some statistics that i've referenced recently, the mu...

Faster and process everybody legal and illegal more quickly. >> so the whole thing third-country thing, we have been watching central and south america pouring into the country, no problem keep going, keep going, that's why you're putting stop to it with the whole stay in the country you cross into, don't tell me where you want to go, you to stay in the country you cross into and that is, for example, third-country push you have and here is a headline from the hill, quote, forcing guatemala into a safe-third country is jaw-droppingly insane, guatemala is not a safe-third country and ludicrous ...

Which are backlogging the courts right now. >> so they are trying everything to solve this crisis without congress because congress refuses to act. ken, acting director of u.s. citizenship and immigration services joins us now, ken, on the surface this third-country thing is really encouraging with guatemala taking part now but have they overcome the judiciary's block to make this happen? >> sure, great question. so my understanding is that they have to go through a process, someone like we would for a treaty, we already have statutory authority to enter into the so-called third-party agreemen...