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Security. And rudy is throwing everyone under the bus. This was given to me i wasnt looking for it. It was given to me by a very legitimate american investigator, lawyer, who had these very serious allegations that ukrainian officials were trying to get to the fbi and felt there was something wrong with the fbi and the doj, because they werent listening to them for a year. Kurt volcker set up the meeting i assume the secretary knew. And when i spoke to the secretary afterward, he told me he had some knowledge of it. He asked you a question, wheres bill barr on this . Well, i put all the eviden...

Announcer this is cnn breaking news. Welcome back to the lead. Live in westerville, ohio, where in just a matter of hours, 12 democratic president ial candidates will take the stage behind me for the debate here only on cnn. Im jake tapper. We start this afternoon, however, with breaking news in the politics lead. Cnn is learning moments ago that President Trumps personal attorney Rudy Giuliani will defy a congressional subpoena for documents. I want to get right to cnn justice correspondent evan perez. What is the reasoning here from the giuliani legal team. Reporter jake, it is classic giuli...