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Hey, if you vet for me, if i'm elected in 2024, and if i run, which by the way, he hasn't signaled yet either, he'll pardon those 700-plus defendants charged by the justice department for their role in the capitol insurrection on january 6th. you have a member of the january 6th committee reacting with our colleague alex witt, just last hour. take a listen to hot she said. >> to say that those who participated in that violence are being treated unfairly is really contrary to the rule of law in america. it's pro-chaos. it's pro-law breaker, and it's really not what anyone in a trusted position ...

Turn to the people and say why aren't you motivated, coming to the polls? then they can hold the mirror back to the democrats and say you're not delivering any of your promises. why should we hand over power to you when we're not seeing anything in return? >> right, you're not staying in our community, you're not shaking our hands unless it's an election year. you're not talking to us unless you need us to win votes. so on and so forth. i know this episode happened before the announcement of the retirement of justice stephen breyer. now that the president has plemged to nominate a black woman ...

Case of really terrible and historic lawlessness into sort of a culture war, where half the people say hooray for the patriots. there's no doubt about that, as a matter of culture and politics. and that is very toxic in and of itself. >> while we have you, i want to pivot to the supreme court briefly. you think about the process. i was taking a listen to the daily a few days ago talking about the supreme court process now versus years ago. you actually helped shepherd justice stephen breyer through his confirmation process. it is so different now than it was back then. justice amy coney barret...

January 6th. >> yeah, i'll believe it when i see it. re, more republicans coming oint the coming months to detract from, deny what the president is trying to push, this big lie. thank you, julie. >> want to bring in harry lipman, former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general in the clinton administration. welcome. >> great to be here again. >> so this is a narrative that is especially being pushed kind of on the fringes of the republican party, the former president being part of the fringe of the republican party. the narrative, for instance, these folks that are being pros...

The visit is coming as the city is of course still reeling from the deaths of two nypd officers after they were shot and killed during a domestic violence call in harlem. nbc's lauren egan is at the white house for us covering this. lauren, good to see you this afternoon. tell us more about the president's visit and the possible strategies the administration might be considering here to curb this violence. >> well, we expect much of that conversation on thursday to center on what specifically is happening in new york city. but that discussion will be reflective of what we're seeing going on ar...