We were talking to him from japan, multiple times a day, at 4:00 in the morning here, midnight over there to him. and so, he was involved in every aspect of what we were doing. he gave us direction about every item. we knew where the lines were being drawn from his perspective. and he also understood, i think, better than anyone, because of his experience in this, where we needed to provide a little space for republicans to find their way to this as well. there is the couple of things that always bring home for the president, who s known him for the least amount of time remember his experience of formulations. japan, multiple times a day, at 4:00 in the morning here, midnight over there to him. and so, he was involved in every aspect of what we were doing. he gave us direction about every item. we knew where the lines were being drawn from his perspective. and he also understood, i think, ....