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Counts stemming from his handling of classified documents. and special prosecutor went after president biden and his family as reelected. and with his republican primary opponents denouncing, a two tiered justice while criticizing the alleged behavior. >> i look forward to what defense he might have. >> most republicans don't support the conduct and that indictment. it does not show the judgment to be ineffective president during full-time. >> if that is indictment is true, and is actually the case, donald trump was incredibly reckless with our national

>> trump is saying to republican voters they are not going after me, they are going after you. if they can do this to me, they can do it to you. that resonates with a lot of voters, notwithstanding what reckless behavior the president indulged in. >> it does. you hear those candidates talking two standards of justice, hillary clinton had a similar pattern of behavior with the private email server in the 2016 campaign. far from being indicted she was exonerated by james comey and people are upset about that. i would say there is an element of the republican party this will bond them closer to t...

Donald trump, the audiotape of him allegedly talking about showing off a plan to attack another country that he did not declassify but let me show it to you. has a little bit of a visceral response to the audio. paul: most republik is are doing a two step, that this is a political prosecution on one hand, on the other hand his behavior sure was reckless, at least as it is alleged. is this going to work for them going forward? >> it is based on the notion that voters holding two thought in their head, one is this was a bad move on the president. he was careless with national secrets, cavalier a...

Security. >> let's bring dan heninger and editorial board member kyle peterson. political fallout from this. how much is this hurting the president or could be helping him? >> donald trump, at the moment we have to divide american politics into two haves, the first half is the nomination of the presidency in 2024 which takes up the rest of this year or next year with the primaries, the second half is the general election and this is hurting donald trump's prospects in the general election against president biden. no question about that. on the other hand, talking about the nomination in the pr...

I think a debate with those guys, more than we will with the two former presidents but what do you think newsom is up to? >> the governor of florida, ron desantis says he's not running against president biden. is tiptoeing and that direction trying to get himself a little bit more prominence. of president biden has a healthy sure some reason he withdraws from the race then gavin newsom is there. paul: is he running a shadow campaign for president? >> he might be but i agree about this debate. it would be fascinating to watch. we have two models of state in the united states and they are battli...