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Donald Trump says he won't be there, but Fox's head of ad sales says that hasn't dampened interest from advertisers.

Cristi is doing and go after him but doug burgham, the north dakota governor was on another network this morning and waffl ing and not taking a position and dodging and i think for candidates the worst place to be because it looks like you don't know what you believe and you're scared of the electorate and unwilling to take a position so you know, pick a side and run with it, but i do agree, pence is picking a new side here and that's a fascinating part of this race to watch. howie: his former vice president, so rich, i think part of this is as trump could be on the stage or not all the stuff ...

Outsider mentality trying to just shake it all up, and andrew yang had a little bit of a moment too. i think vivek will be an interesting addition to the debate stage but going back to the point you just made about desantis. they have to start differenting their policies and whether it's weird ideas vivek has about russia and ukraine or desantis' really controversial social stances on things like yes, slavery, that i hope is what the debate is about is what these candidates feel, what these candidates think and i think martha's right. some will rise because of this debate. some may have to end...

Haven't. politicians are very good at launching into it and you saw it in that desantis memo. say these things, at least three to five times, right? he's not alone. they are all having these same kind of meetings. these are the points you want to be sure to hit over and over so yes, i think when you start to hear that drone, you want to jump in and say no, no, wait a minute this is the question we're talking about and we need answer so we're moderators in this environment, it's not a one on one interview situation which is different than this. it's for us to put that question out there and hop...

Now, whoever is number two, behind donald trump. will be in the center square. that will drive donald trump crazy if he is not there. so, you know, it would be great if he showed up. he excels. he is great at the debate. but does he really want chris christie in the center square talking about donald trump. >> brian: new hampshire not overall. desantis would still be the middle. >> steve: i made that clear. we will see who is number two coming up a week from now. >> ainsley: do you think he will make the announcement if he does decide to do it like the day before. he will just show up? >> bria...