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The Situation Room-20140120-23:06:00

russians were cooperative, if they could tell us everything they know in the world, but do they know everything? do they know everything about these groups in chechnya and dagistan that have been at war with them, do they know what they're capable of. >> fran, what they say is, and i'm anxious to get your reaction, they're deploying literally thousands, if not tens of thousands of military and security personnel, police and they have cordoned off this entire perimeter around sochi. you've got to have special passes to get in. you go through several layers of metal detectors, a bomb detection equipment to get in and they insist it will be safe. what do you think? >> look, tom is quite right. this is sort of the most dangerous threatened environment that we've seen for an olympics. there were threats inside greece during -- in the run-up to the athens olympics. we worked with greek officials. but let's be clear, the russian security services are very, very

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The Situation Room-20140120-23:10:00

indicate to me that he had some help. >> do you agree with chairman rogers that he may have had help from the russians? >> he may well have. we don't know at this stage. >> fran, quickly, what do you think? >> well, look, i think you'd be foolish to rule it out. i think they don't have affirmative proof yet that that's the case. look, it ought to be the operating assumption for the entire counterintelligence that he did have help. >> it's a possibility. he did go to hong kong first and before he went to russia he was trying to go to other countries. when he arrived in russia, he was still trying to go to south american countries so it's a possibility. i don't know what clues they have. obviously the intelligence community would have more clues than we in the public would right now, but of course it's possible. >> tom fuentes, fran townsend, thanks very much. still ahead, did chris christie's administration play political games with superstorm sandy relief funds. the governor's team fighting back against new allegations.

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The Situation Room-20140120-23:04:00

sochi and about russia's ability to handle it. one area of concern is lack of cooperation. one u.s. official told me there are clearly sensitivities in our relationship with moscow, but that the recent bombings underscore the threat and why, wolf, the two sides need to be working hand in hand to protect all the athletes there and clearly americans as well. >> this is really a sensitive and very serious issue. jim, thanks very much. let's dig a little deeper right now with cnn national security analyst, the former bush homeland security adviser fran towns end townsend. also joining us, law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes. fran, how dangerous are these so-called black widows? >> well, wolf, we've seen the chechnyan and dagistan extremists deploy them before, even as suicide bombers. so clearly the russians have intelligence that have led them

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The Situation Room-20140120-23:09:00

make sure that they have plans to be able to communicate with the athletes, because i've spoken to former olympians who are really concerned that the athletes themselves will worry about the security of their families who have come to watch them. >> fran, quickly, sort of related but different, russia's story. the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers, is now raising the possibility that edward snowden in leaking all these documents, these nsa surveillance documents, was actually doing this in cooperation with russian intelligence. listen to what he said yesterday, this is mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, and then dianne feinstein, the chair of the senate intelligence committee. >> i believe there's questions to be answered there. i don't think it's -- it was a gee whiz luck event that he ended up in moscow under the handling of the fsb. as somebody who used to do investigations, some of the things we're finding we would call clues that certainly would

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