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Not to mention a course of the nationals around the airport and around other cities. what are the risks of further attacks?— attacks? the risks are extremely _ attacks? the risks are extremely high. - attacks? the risks are extremely high. i- attacks? the risks are| extremely high. i don't attacks? the risks are - extremely high. i don't expect they will stop now. this was a sense of momentum for them. if you think about isis in iraq and syria, they have been depending on their franchise groups to generate an operational tempo. they have looked at groups in sub—saharan africa and now they ...

Aware of isis-k. i wrote _ offshoot. anyone paying attention is aware of isis-k. i wrote a _ offshoot. anyone paying attention is aware of isis-k. i wrote a book, i aware of isis—k. i wrote a book, published in 2019, and i laid out exactly what i thought was going to happen, that we were going to see these affiliates, branches and franchise groups grow across the world. we have seen that in north africa, in egypt, in southeast asia and now we're seeing it afghanistan. give me your assessment, the effect that poses internally in afghanistan and externally. i that poses internally in afghanist...

Decade about how much al qaeda has been weakened by the war on terror, but does this contradict that? do these closures suggest they are stronger than we've been led to believe? >> i don't want to say it's contradicted and david has put his finger on it. the fact of the matter is we've always known despite the killing of osama bin laden that there's been a series of franchise organizations directly related to al qaeda. they've been in the caucuses in the north africa and the al qaeda which committed attacks in amgeria, as well as in libya. there have been, of course, the granddaddy of these fr...

Very much. please explain that. >> well, you have to put it in context that jihadism is much larger than al qaeda prime today which which is or was bin laden. in fact, some of the franchise groups, bill, like al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has surpassed al qaeda prime or bin laden on the physical, as well as the ideological battlefield. so, in essence, a guy like bin laden is not planning 9/11 attacks anymore. >> bill: okay. but, let's be honest about this. al qaeda, whether it's in yemen or wherever it is on the run. on the run. now we got their symbolic leader, huge psychological victory ...

Pakistan has really given them credibility. as they've been saying for quite some time, that osama bin laden was not here and that people shouldn't be looking for him here or accusing afghanistan of harboring him. now, we heard from president hamid karzai yesterday, who said it's proved now that the war on terror should not be fought in afghan villages, suburbs, and houses. he said the war on terror cannot be taken to afghan villages and houses where there are no terrorists and innocent women and children get killed. we also heard from a member of the afghan parliament who said, "i hope now th...