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What you can't admit. he's caught on this and he cannot deny that he knew. there's enough evidene against him so now he's switching to say, well, it wasn't about the election. it was other things, and you know, giuliani has even said publicly, though, this would have been terrible if it came out. so, there's no question that it was connected to the election. there's no question now that there's a lot of people who could testify. and don't forget that 2014 meeting that we found out about last week in the papers that were submitted, which was trump, david pecker can frfrom ami and all agreeing t...

Accepted and the sentencing has really put this right in the president's lap, and there's corroboration now with the ami. there's also probably additional corroboration given the statements that were made by the government in the courtroom today would suggest that they have even more evidence than we know about, could be somebody like mr. weisselberg, the chief financial officer. he was given immunity to testify in this case, and he probably has backed this all up as well. >> you know, as we've heard, barbara, former vp at trump organization saying there's no way payments of these sizes would ...

On those alleged dirty deeds. american media, the owner of the "national enquirer" is reaching a deal with prosecutors in connection with one of these payments. specifically here, the $150,000 payment to karen mcdougal, the "playboy" model. prosecutors saying flatout, "ami" american media, the parent of "the national enquirer," admitted it made the $150,000 payment in concert with the candidate's presidential campaign and in order to ensure that the women did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 election. ami further admitted that its principal purpose in maki...

Patrick, politics editor for the "new york times." the parent company of "the national enquirer" striking this deal. michael cohen is a liar except for when he's telling the truth and they say they've got this as fact, that this was done to influence the election from others, obviously including ami. clear on that plea deal, admitting they paid the hush money to help influence the election. how big of a deal is it? >> to me, this is an enormously big deal and i think this is really the story of the day, which is that before this, we had michael cohen saying we did this to influence the electio...

September and october, that this was a direct threat, and this ami, you know, bombshell is huge because it goes to what was a donald trump pattern, you know, for many, many years, which was basically figuring out ways to use money to silence threats or deter threats. and it is that level of corroboration that takes this well beyond cohen. >> well beyond cohen and also i want to make the point for people watching, these affairs had happened in the past. these are the two we know about at this point. he could have paid them off a long time before. it happened in the weeks before the election whe...