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>> everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. >> so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? >> it was very intoxicating. >> i think she was cold and calculating. >> maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. >> it's easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. >> or maybe it was someone else entirely. >> he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. >> it's a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. >> we are going back up under a rollercoa...

>> and he's got no history of working with explosives? >> that's correct. >> reporter: still, detective james gamber desperately wanted to talk with ron young. well >> it was an active fugitive case going on, because they had a fraud warrant. but he basically just fell off the face of the earth. >> reporter: who was ron young? and what was his relationship with pam phillips? nine days after the murder of her ex funds beyond, pam phillips agreed to come down to the sheriff's department for an interview. that conversation was recorded. >> i want to ask you about your relationship with ron young....